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Cut the bullshit - the REAL real cost of leaving Notes is....

By Andrew Pollack on 10/17/2006 at 11:18 PM EDT

....the fact that you don't have it any more. That's right. If you win, you lose. You lose a secure, scalable, stable, redundant, standards compliant, and extensible platform in favor of.....what?

Richard comes close to saying this in his blog. So what the hell. Discussions on several other blogs and sites recently about this topic focus on the costs of moving functionality out of Notes and onto some other platform. Some call this vendor lock in.

That's wrong. It's a functionality lock in. The reason it is expensive to recreate the functionality is that as yet, the tools to do it with do not exist at anything close to a high enough level. Each part could be built with lower level tools, but at the end of the day all you're doing is building a product to match -- and probably not as well, unless you have a hundred million close friends to test it for you.

My best guess at what comes closest to the tools you'd want to use? JSR-170 repositories, accessible through a Java api (which will then allow apps to be written in various Java platforms, including J2EE to emulate server based agents) with documents stored as xml on the backend and databases remapped as realms or namespaces. It'd be bloatware, but that's the closest matching platform to date. And it doesn't come close.


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My own thoughts on this are...By John Head on 10/18/2006 at 11:35 AM EDT
One thing I know I always expect from you Andrew is the truth on how you feel.
Nicely written.
My own thoughts on this are...By Stephan H. Wissel on 10/18/2006 at 01:33 PM EDT
Well spoken,

J2EE is a little to generic when comparing with Domino. If I had to pick a
different platform, this would be my choices:

- Storage: any JSR170, a XML Store (e.g. SleepyCat)
- Workflow: a BPML engine (or at least WfMc) e.g.
http://forge.objectweb.org/projects/shark
- UI: XForms e.g. http://forge.objectweb.org/projects/ops
- UI (Rich Client): Eclipse

+++ hundred of moving parts.

All choices above are OpenSource. When it comes to vendor specific
recommendations I'll stick to "Who's bread I ear, who's song I sing" and stay
quiet.
My own thoughts on this are...By Stephen Hood on 10/18/2006 at 01:55 PM EDT
The coming integration with the Eclipse ecosystem just makes it an even sillier
proposition - the number of Eclipse developers grows by leaps and bounds -
opening up an even larger talent pool to draw on - in :)

Sametime 7.5 is the first peek at what's coming..and it's looking pretty damn
good from users, partners, and developers perspective.

Eclipse is a game changer that's for sure...combining it with Notes even more
so.


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