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The new blog design is now up, your comments are welcome
By Andrew Pollack on 11/03/2006 at 05:43 PM EDTI spent more time than I'd expected, but the new blog site is now 90% in place. What isn't done is the new search form - which will be ajax powered. Some things to note:
* No more new window for comment entry. That's done as a layer with an ajax style submit -- I opted to refresh anyway so your comment shows up. Let me know if you agree or dissagree with that.
* There is a click to show comments, but no screen refresh. If you turn them on, they stay on -- saved in a cookie -- as your preference when using the blog from the same pc.
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re: The new blog design is now up, your comments are welcomeBy Bruce Elgort on 11/03/2006 at 11:28 PM EDT
Andrew - job well done. I love it!
re: The new blog design is now up, your comments are welcomeBy Richard Schwartz on 11/04/2006 at 12:13 AM EDT
Very, very nice.
One suggestion: do the same sticky show/hide trick with the "Most Recent
Articles" part.
One suggestion: do the same sticky show/hide trick with the "Most Recent
Articles" part.
re: re: The new blog design is now up, your comments are welcomeBy Richard Schwartz on 11/04/2006 at 12:14 AM EDT
And yes... do keep the refresh.
re: the other recent articles...By Andrew Pollack on 11/04/2006 at 12:25 AM EDT
I considered it, actually, but it crosses an interesting line.
Consider the social contract of a web site. If I want you to come to the site
and look at things interesting to me, I must provide you content you find
interesting as well. The "Most recent articles" amount to a sort of blog
version of advertising. My "goal" as a site owner (if I can be said to have
one other than running off at the mouth) is to engage you in more discussion.
To do that, I need to capture your interest. I can't do that if you don't see
the other abstracts.
So, back to that 'web site social contract' -- in return for comment you find
interesting (for reasons I hope never to understand), you're paying by viewing
the sort of "bloggish advertising" (aka blog whoring) of the other sections.
Yes, it is very late at night. No, I haven't been smoking left handed
cigarettes. I really do think this way all the time.
Consider the social contract of a web site. If I want you to come to the site
and look at things interesting to me, I must provide you content you find
interesting as well. The "Most recent articles" amount to a sort of blog
version of advertising. My "goal" as a site owner (if I can be said to have
one other than running off at the mouth) is to engage you in more discussion.
To do that, I need to capture your interest. I can't do that if you don't see
the other abstracts.
So, back to that 'web site social contract' -- in return for comment you find
interesting (for reasons I hope never to understand), you're paying by viewing
the sort of "bloggish advertising" (aka blog whoring) of the other sections.
Yes, it is very late at night. No, I haven't been smoking left handed
cigarettes. I really do think this way all the time.
re: re: the other recent articles...By Rob McDonagh on 11/04/2006 at 01:59 AM EDT
Along the same lines (engaging in more discussion), can you add comment counts
to the Most Recent Articles section? Like you do on the current article, I
mean? That way we can tell if there have been additional comments recently.
I really like the "all on one page but still threaded" comments
implementation. And I agree with Richard about the refresh - if it wasn't
there, I'd think the comment wasn't saved.
to the Most Recent Articles section? Like you do on the current article, I
mean? That way we can tell if there have been additional comments recently.
I really like the "all on one page but still threaded" comments
implementation. And I agree with Richard about the refresh - if it wasn't
there, I'd think the comment wasn't saved.
re: re: re: the other recent articles...By Rob McDonagh on 11/04/2006 at 02:00 AM EDT
On the other hand, I'm not a fan of the disappeating carriage returns/line
feeds. Is that deliberate, or a minor bug?
This should be a new paragraph.
So should this.
This is where I stop whining. heh...
feeds. Is that deliberate, or a minor bug?
This should be a new paragraph.
So should this.
This is where I stop whining. heh...
re: re: re: re: the other recent articles...By Andrew Pollack on 11/04/2006 at 09:46 AM EDT
I'd rather call it a missing bit of function than a "bug" per se. The line
feeds shall return.
feeds shall return.
yes, but not quicklyBy Andrew Pollack on 11/04/2006 at 12:46 PM EDT
Yes, and in fact at the last minute I did some work on it but the design
doesn't make that easy at all. It means doing a bit more work -- an hour or so
-- than I had time to finish.
doesn't make that easy at all. It means doing a bit more work -- an hour or so
-- than I had time to finish.
re: re: the other recent articles...By Richard Schwartz on 11/04/2006 at 03:17 PM EDT
If I'm a subscriber to your feed, I get the list of most recent articles
already in my aggregator. The "advertising" is redundant for me. Lots of
blogs do show a "recent articles" list, but generally it's in a side block and
a lot smaller.
already in my aggregator. The "advertising" is redundant for me. Lots of
blogs do show a "recent articles" list, but generally it's in a side block and
a lot smaller.
Given that it is at the end, and is all text and no graphics...By Andrew Pollack on 11/04/2006 at 03:36 PM EDT
...it doesn't slow down the page any noticeable amount and there isn't anything
to look at past there....what's the issue?
to look at past there....what's the issue?
re: Given that it is at the end, and is all text and no graphics...By Richard Schwartz on 11/04/2006 at 09:11 PM EDT
Just aesthetics, mainly. It's a large block of screen real-estate, and most
blog layouts have nothing there. When you post a short article and there are
no responses yet, the eyes scan down and it's just a bit jarring to see it.
That's all. Just my 2c.
blog layouts have nothing there. When you post a short article and there are
no responses yet, the eyes scan down and it's just a bit jarring to see it.
That's all. Just my 2c.
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