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That didn't take long. Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java. Is IBM next?

By Andrew Pollack on 08/13/2010 at 11:27 PM EDT

According to this report, Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java in its Android operating system and applications. It hasn't been that long since Oracle bought Sun, and with it gained a controlling interest in the way the Java license is interpreted. On the one hand, it seems unlikely that this suit will go anywhere. On the other hand, by betting your operating system and application strategy on a run time environment that is controlled by one of your top competitors, you are only asking for trouble.

Since Oracle bought out Sun, I've personally made sure to remember to always call it "Oracle Java" when commenting to IBM people about it. Most at IBM know that's just my way of being a bit of a jerk about how much I don't like anything related to J2EE -- but isn't it interesting that the old man may just know something about the industry after all?


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re: That didn't take long. Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java. Is IBM next?By Dan Sickles on 08/14/2010 at 01:21 AM EDT
Some folks are rather pessimistic:
http://quoderat.megginson.com/2010/08/13/rip-java-1995-2010/

As long as there's one unencumbered JVM, all will be well. There's been a lot
of programming language innovation on the JVM the past few years, with the
notable exception of Java. Java 7 does add the first new bytecode ever to the
JVM (it's for the dynamically typed languages). The question is, will we ever
see Java 7? I say it doesn't matter. As long as the JVM is freely available, as
in source beer, the Java language can go dormant as in Lotusscript. There are
good alternatives. Of course, the lawsuit is apparently mostly about JVM
implementation patents and copyright. We'll see.
re: That didn't take long. Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java. Is IBM next?By Dan Sickles on 08/14/2010 at 01:22 AM EDT
that would be "..freely available as in source and beer..."
re: That didn't take long. Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java. Is IBM next?By John Turnbow on 08/15/2010 at 09:54 AM EDT
I always thought that IBM messed up not buying Sun because of Java. Oracle,
like MS, probably have their lawyers looking over every line of every agreement
and then, will the old agreements go forward? Will Oracle be an Enemy or a
Frienemy? Sounds small, but is very big.
re: That didn't take long. Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java. Is IBM next?By Dan Sickles on 08/15/2010 at 01:17 PM EDT
Apparently, IBM didn't understand the litigation value of Java.
re: That didn't take long. Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java. Is IBM next?By Palmi on 08/15/2010 at 05:23 PM EDT
This will be settled out of court . lawyers get rich in the process
re: That didn't take long. Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java. Is IBM next?By Tim | PRS Hollowbody on 08/17/2010 at 01:36 PM EDT
This new move by Oracle disturbs me especially because their CEO is gung ho
about being the big boss in town. I've heard some blogs refer to Oracle as the
new pit bull in town and I believe that is accurate. I hope they don't get
anything out of trying to exploit Java for their own devices
re: That didn't take long. Oracle is suing Google over the use of Java. Is IBM next?By Dwight Wilbanks on 08/30/2010 at 09:58 PM EDT
Sorry for my late arrival, I don't check blogs anywhere near as frequently as I
used to.

I questioned Google's decision when they decided to use Dalvik, I just assumed
that they would not actually call the language that runs in the Dalvik vm
"java" it would seem to me if they just called it anything else then nobody
could say anythign.

Sun went crazy when Microsoft made their own JVM, sued and they won that
fight. Microsoft was trying to do that "embrase end extend" thing that they
used to do well, and I loved their responce. "Your on your own Sun." They
yanked J and left sun to their own devices.

Google has the wherewithall, (Dalvik vm, eclipse ide) to go forward in a zero
sun code environment, I'm completely clueless why they don't.

This is really a confusing one for me, I have a great deal of respect for
Googles decision making ability, but, unless they are intentionally trying to
break the back of the Oracle control over Java, I'm clueless about what they
are doing.

Oh, yeah, lets say it one more time, "Java is awesome, it's open source so
there is nobody controlling how you can ue it"


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